and they got pics too!
Here's some fun:
Remember the Muppet movie - the one where Kermit sings that song "Rainbow Connection?" Substitue JW Connection for Rainbow Connection, and it would make a great new Kingdom Melody. I think it's time for some new ones, anyway. Here goes:
Someday you'll find it, the JW Connection, the lovers the dreamers and me!
did it reinforce your dedication to the cause?
or did it burden and disillusion you?
Have to agree with you, Tres. Service on Christmas morning MORNING!!!!!!! (I did it once, my first december I was going door to door). That has to be utterly the worst display of tact, as far as a householder (crap, I used one of their terms) would be concerned. Sorry neigbors!!!!!
i am new to forum.
my concerns with this group as with any group is the anger displayed to others.
i was emotionally abused for years for my association to the truth.
Wow, Dave! Does your office chair have a leather couch next to it? Eloquent and concise summary of how I feel! You should write a book.
hi all- i haven't posted in quite a while but visit here a lot.
i am a non-witness married to a reinstated jw.
we were married when he was df, long story.
In answer to an earlier question, no my husband does not Pioneer (tm). He struggles with attending, although he attends almost every meeting.
Worldly Wife. Thanks for answering my query. I suspect your husband may be trying to live vicariously through his daughter. Kind of like the father who pushes his son to play football or some other activity. Although I'm not a parent, I think this is a natural phenomenon that is understandable. The WTBS does a lot of talking about serving Jehovah in one's youth. I don't know how familiar you are with their liturature, but there have also been wt and awake articles on being balanced, and not overdo it. Of course these ideas get swept under the rug, especially in a congregation like mine was with about 10 percent of the cong being bethel elders. I think you are doing exactly what you should be doing. She is fortunate to have you in her life. Ultimately it's her decision. Perhaps you can research and find the articles I'm refering to (I discarded all my literature during a move, I should have kept at least the CD rom).
One point I'd like to make is that in my demographic, those bethel elders really pushed serving full time at all costs. It's easy to say that when you have a warm bed and three squares provided no matter what. It's not like that in the real world. I just heard a report on the radio yesterday that was interesting. They said that to RENT a two bedroom apartment in my county, you had to have a minimum income of $18.00 per hour (remember they are assuming a 40 hour work week). And I'm betting that doesn't allow for much discretionary income. Anyway, the State mandated minimum wage in Connecticut (where the above demographic represents) is $7.10 per hour. See the problem here? It's nice that she can stay in your home now, but what kind of future is she going to have this way? The ones making the rules behind the scenes just simply don't have to deal with these realities.
Young ones - if you want to make the most of what god has given you, spend 4 years and get a degree. The evil world will still be here waiting. Trust me!
M.J. When I was a practicing witness, New Years was the one worldly celebration many didn't have a problem with. At least the 20 somethings. Probably because they were all budding alcoholics. Drinking is the one vice allowed, so it seems that all the kids growing up JW tended to overdo it. At least until they got into pot.
I was born on New Years Day. I'm going Multiple Pagan and celebrating all this at my worldly parents home with my unbelieving mate (I was already baptised when we met), and bringing my two BELOVED dogs (familly members, really). Oh, and we will probably drive there in my TWO DOOR convertible (had to emphasize the two door part), and drink plenty of champagne.
Oh, and I think I'm getting a treadmill as a birthday gift, which I sorely need .
hi all- i haven't posted in quite a while but visit here a lot.
i am a non-witness married to a reinstated jw.
we were married when he was df, long story.
Worldly Wife - Is your husband also a full time pioneer?
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this guy needs a friend...and a life.
definitely a few fries short of a happy meal.. http://www.flyinhi.freeservers.com/.
Hope you all "learnt" a lot after readind his website!
http://www.rgj.com/news/stories/html/2004/12/27/88538.php?sps=rgj.com&sch=sparkstoday&sp1=rgj&sp2=sparkstoday&sp5=rgj.com&sp6=news&sp7=local_news .
http://www.rgj.com/news/stories/html/2004/12/27/88538.php?sps=rgj.com&sch=sparkstoday&sp1=rgj&sp2=sparkstoday&sp5=rgj.com&sp6=news&sp7=local_news.
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Ooops!!! I guess I skimmed it like a watchtower study article!! I see it now.
i am new to forum.
my concerns with this group as with any group is the anger displayed to others.
i was emotionally abused for years for my association to the truth.
I have to admit that some of the posts in response to that site seemed to mimic attitudes and behaviors I came to despise within the org. It's poor taste to bash a seemingly earnest (albeit horridly misinformed) individual when most of us stood in his shoes at a point in our lives. Although I, myself am not above having a chuckle at his expense. In dealing with the losses that many former JW's feel (in my case it was merely lost years, I am in the lucky minority), laughter maybe is the best medicine. I don't know. I can certainly sympathize with the animosity expressed towards the WTBS. I just don't like seeing it directed at an unbaptized individual who really doesn't know what he is getting into yet!
In support of the more "negative" comments, the real beauty of this discussion board is the fact that we are no longer bound by a singular point of view. We are free to express our oppinions, and be chastised or commended as others see fit. To try to censure some of the more negative comments would be creating a biased viewpoint. I for one can staunchly advocate that I never want that again in my life! In my own response to that thread, I tried to remind us of how crazy we were to have our thinking molded like that young man. But remember, at that point in our lives NOTHING could shake us of our beliefs! Therefore, it's futile to try to change his thinking by posting to his guestbook, imo. If anything, it's going to create a persecution complex, which will reinforce his oppinion that he has discovered the truth.
In conclusion, I agree with Peggy's point, and applaud her for stating it so poignantly. Please continue to post, Peggy. We need your point of view!
